08.28.2008 Parks & Rec Minutesp
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1.Call to Order/Roll Call
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Meeting of the Town of Prosper
Parks and Recreation Board
605 E. Seventh Street, Prosper, Texas
Prosper ISO Administrative Svcs Building
Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 6:00 p.m.
The meeting was called to order at 6: 10 p.m. by Chairman Trent Lewis
Members present include: Trent Lewis, Charity Gilson, Tom Blaney,
Jeff Stang, Loren Moulder
Staff members present include: Wade Harden
2.A.) Discussion with the Prosper Youth Sports Association
concerning their by-laws and operation.
Susan Pelzel -PYSA Secretary & Board Member: was the only PYSA
Board Member in attendance at tonight's meeting.
There were approximately 10-12 Prosper residents in attendance to
address the Park Board with concerns surrounding the standard
operating procedures and adherence of the by-laws of PYSA by the
PYSA Board.
Jeff Stang gave a brief history of how PSA (now PYSA) operated 3
years ago when he was on the Board of Directors for PSA serving as
the Secretary of the organization.
Mike Hamilton -1070 Thorndale: Stated he was not clear on why this
meeting was needed. He indicated he has volunteered to be a coach
and feels most people in Prosper are happy with PYSA. He said the
baseball fields need a lot of help and that most of the parents do help
out when asked to make improvements. He feels people should
volunteer more.
Paula Luallen -1220 Harvest Ridge: Resident for 5 years, has been a
past PYSA board member, has also served as a coach in the past, and
her husband has also coached. She feels that the PYSA Board needs
to follow their by-laws. She said she tried to change things on the
board, but was unsuccessful. She thinks the town needs a strong
recreation league, but feels that PYSA runs the league as a select
league.
Charity Gilson asked if Prosper could support both select and
recreational sports programs.
Mike Hamilton asked what everyone considered select. He indicated
that most kids start selecting teams when they are young on the
sandlot, deciding who picks first and then picking teams to play.
Trent Lewis explained how PYSA was affiliated with the town and how
the town recognizes PYSA as the recreational league provider.
Mike Hamilton wants to fix any issues and does not feel that PYSA
should be dismantled.
Anna Jordan -1300 Crooked Stick: Wants to see fairness. Feels the
rules are not clear. Feels communication from PYSA needs to be
better. She feels that the PYSA Board did not hear the concerns of the
citizens at their last meeting. She also feels PYSA should address the
needs of the entire community.
Roy Arnold - 3 Rhea Mills Circle: Said the parents were able to get a
third team this year for football, but wants to be better informed to
help fix the concerns.
Barbara Mills -490 Cloud View Court: Her passion is truth over
sports. She presented the PARB many of her concerns with PYSA in a
packet which was provided to the Park Board with tonight's agenda.
She was hoping PYSA representatives would be present to address the
issues.
Tom Blaney stated that many of these concerns were brought up
during the PARB meeting last week. He felt that the Park Board had a
good understanding of the resident's concerns. At the PARB meeting
last week there were a number of items that the Park Board had
agreed to work in addressing with PYSA:
-PYSA needs to abide by their established by-laws
-Publish and hold to standard operating procedures in regards of all
aspects of league functions including, registration, team selection,
practice facilities, scheduling, and league rules to name a few
-Mandate fair use of park facilities
-Better communication with the residents
-Provide the Park Board monthly reports from PYSA
-Use of the town email system for communications
-Publish a grievance process to handle concerns and address issues
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He asked if there were any additional items that needed to be
addressed with PYSA. He also asked that we now start to focus on
how to address the concerns instead of restating them.
Pam Cooper -403 Brookview Court: She went to the PYSA meeting
last week to give the PYSA Board an opportunity to see how they
would address the community's concerns. She would like to have
PYSA follow their own rules and by-laws. She heard the comment that
the by-laws are too old and need to be changed. She feels that if the
by-laws are too old they need to be changed at a proper meeting when
by-laws are reviewed. She wants the PYSA Board to follow their by
laws and does not feel they are doing their jobs.
Charity Gilson asked Susan Pelzer what PYSA positions were opened.
Susan Pelzer indicated that the Vice President, Secretary, and Softball
Commissioner were all vacant. She said an email was first sent out to
all the PYSA members they had email addresses and then a later email
was sent concerning the open positions, through the town email
system.
Jeff Stang questioned why not hold the elections early in September.
Pam Cooper stated that was not in accordance with the by-laws.
According to the by-laws, the positions should be appointed now and
then have elections held in November for the 2 year terms.
Some residents complained that they did not receive any emails from
PYSA concerning the vacant positions.
Susan Pelzel explained that PYSA had recently switched their email
web systems and some emails might have been lost in the transfer.
Loren Moulder questioned if PYSA had insurance for their program.
Yes was provided. He questioned if failing to adhere to their own by
laws would put their insurance agreement at risk.
Charity Gilson suggested that a Park Board representative and a PYSA
representative get together and try to work out some sort of
understanding and facilitate a new meeting between the Park Board
and the PYSA Board.
Loren Moulder motioned to table any additional discussion concerning
the matter until Town Counsel can be conferred. Specifically, how can
the town hold PYSA accountable? Trent seconded the motion. After a
brief discussion, the motion failed 2-3. Loren and Trent in favor and
Charity, Jeff, and Tom opposed.
Charity Gilson wanted to consider recommending the following to the
Town Council:
-Hold PYSA to their by-laws and the by-laws of their participating
leagues
-PYSA appointing interim spots in accordance with their by-laws
-PYSA should address their by-laws with the new PYSA board
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-PYSA should present a monthly report to the PARB
-PYSA should publish their SOP for the organization and leagues
Heather Doke -636 Creekview Drive: Was at the PYSA meeting last
week and heard a board member state" We do not have to follow the
by-laws. They are just guidelines."
Trent Lewis moved to close the public input and Charity Gilson
seconded the motion. The motion was approved by a 5-0 vote at
8:lOp.m.
Charity Gilson volunteered to reach out to the PYSA Board members
on a one-to-one basis in order to encourage another attempt at having
a working session between the PYSA Board and the Park Board.
Charity removed her consideration to the Town Council pending the
outcome of her efforts.
Jeff Stang also volunteered to work with Charity in putting together
such a meeting/work session.
The Park Board will request a September 4, 2009 work session with
the PYSA Board. Charity and Jeff will work to make this happen.
B.) Consider and possibly act upon a recommendation to the
Town Council concerning the Prosper Youth Sports Association.
Jeff Stang asked PARB members to have ideas as to possible
resolutions or recommendation that the Park Board should present to
the Town Council as a result of that meeting.
Trent Lewis asked for a 10 minute break at 8:30p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 8:40p.m.
3.Discuss and consider acting upon a change order for the
Folsom Park improvement project.
Staff provided a detailed list of proposed charges incurred during
changes at Folsom Park. Not all of the changes have been verified by
staff at this time. The change order will be put on the agenda for the
next special meeting of the Park Board on September 4, 2008.
4.Consider and possibly act upon a recommendation to the Town
Council regarding the 57 Acre Park site Master Plan.
Tabled until a later meeting.
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5.Informational Items.
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{ 6. Adjourn.
Trent Lewis motioned to adjourn the meeting, Loren Moulder seconded
the motion. The motion was approved by a 5-0 vote. The meeting
was adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
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