11.19.2002 Town Council Minutes SpecialMinutes approved QV 14103
Special Galled Meeting of the Prospelr
Town Council
First Baptist Church Youth Building
601 S. Church St., prosper, T X
Tuesday, November 19, 2002, 7:00pm
1. Call to order/ Roll Call, Mayor Dunmire called the meeting to order. Council Members Present: Mayor Jim Dunmire,
Mayor Pro -Tem Jeff Walker, Larry Tracey, Charles Niswanger, Michael Perry and Russell Kaker. Also Present: Town
Administrator Jennifer Finley, Town Engineer Travis Roberts and Town Secretary Amber Phillips.
2. 2nd PUBLIQ HEARI'N r ardin h ro os d ann x tion of roxima l 187.03 a res of land more or less ou
of the Collin County School Land Survey Abstrpct No 147 and being more generally located on CR 4. Mayor
Dunmire opened the public hearing at 7:36PM and invited members of the audience to speak on behalf of and/or against the
proposed annexation. Bill Anderson, Dowdey Anderson Engineers, presented Council and advised he was available to
answer questions regarding the development. Rick Cowens, 635 Creekview Drive, questioned how far the proposed homes
would be from the railroad tracks. Bill Anderson explained that an additional buffer will be constructed between homes and the
railroad track which will be addressed in the Planned Development Agreement. The closest that a home will be located to the
tracks will be approximately 100 feet. Mayor Dunmire closed the public hearing at 7:39PM.
3 PUBLIC HEARING regarding the pn2posed Zoning of approximately 187 03 acres of land more or less out t of the
Collin County School Land Survey Abstract No 147 and being more generally located on CR 4, from Single Fail2ily
1F-1 to Planned Devel meat PD u on annexation. Mayor Dunmire opened the public hearing at 7:34PM. Bill
fSnder¢nn ;nrkiirnnt ranrasantntivr'nri-,entpd a hasic overview of the proposed development. He advised that approximately
10% of the property will be open space. The trail system will be capable of extending to surrounding future developments and
pocket parks will also be included. The proposed development will include various amenities, including a swimming pool and
ponds near the entrance of community. The development will consist of 183 acres containing 539 units. The overall lot size is
10,000 sq. ft. with a minimum of 9,000 sq. ft. lots.
Eddie Collins, Goodman Land Advisors, also presented Council as a representative of the applicant. He advised that the
current density is slightly over 2.9 which is consistent with SF -2 zoning. He understood Council's desire for a 10,000 sq. ft.
minimum lot size but felt that 9,000 sq. ft. wuuld provide diversity. He further explained that research from the City of Frisco
exhibited higher property values associated with higher density. Mr. Collins estimated the average home size in the proposed
development to be between 2700 and 2800 sq. ft.
Council discussed the lot sizes presented by Mr. Collins. Mayor Dunmire closed the public hearing at 8:20PM.
4. 2 n PUBLIC HEARING regarding the >or000sed annexation of approximately 42.43 acrg of land, more or less, out of
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the William By tier Survey Ab5iract iso i i2 anti Toeing MUre c��rlBiaiiy+ lrlVicee��i aiui:�� r,�C ngi—t b siMe CR W c --i
TP L C . easement. Mayor Dunmire opened the public Clearing at 8:19PM. Skip Klinefelter, Red Group Developers,
presented Council and invited questions. He advised that as applicant representative, he had not experienced any negative
comments from Council regarding the proposed development. No comments from citizens. Mayor Dunmire closed the public
hearing at 8:20PM.
5. Consider and possibly act t¢ accept the Preliminary Plat for the subdivision known as the Villages of La Cima.
Jahn Papagolos, 5225 Village Creek Drive, Plano, TX, presented Council requesting acceptance of the Preliminary Plat for
Phases I and II of the Villages of La Cima. He reviewed with Council the lot sizes and number of lots in each phase.
Travis Roberts presented Council and referenced his recommendation letter dated November 13, 2002, which listed all items
he had observed to date. He advised that the Preliminary Plat meets the requirements set forth in the previously approved PD
Agreement and the Town's Subdivision Ordinance and recommended Council give consideration for approval of the
preliminary plat as submitted.
Council raised a question regarding the school site. Travis advised that the school site is planned for one of the future phases,
not Phase I or II; therefore, it was not illustrated on the plat in question. However, Travis stated that he had seen a copy of the
plat that contains the future school site.
Council questioned the developer's intentions regarding CR78. Mr. Papagolos agreed to help with extending the asphalt
portion of CR78.
In regards to sewer, there is currently not a line in place; however, a Developer Agreement is pending and/or there is the
possibility of going east to tie into a line anticipated in approximately 18 months. In regards to water, the developer has
agreed to work with the Town on a well site in Phase Il, but currently there is nothing in writing.
Motioned by Russell Kaker and seconded by Charles Niswanger to accept the Preliminary Plat for the subdivision known as
the Villages of La Cima Phases I and II. Lary Tracey opposed. Motion carried. Vote 4 to 1.
6, Di slon a Lrid oossibleion regarding t allocation of $eries,200.1 Bond moneyr vi sl a mark d fund
a new -Fire stati n Facilily. Fire Chief Ronnie Tucker presented Council regarding the current conditions/status of the fire
station. He advised that the La Cima property was a viable location for the Town's first large station, but a closer property, if
available, could be more favorable in regards to the ISO rating.
Councilman Niswanger advised that another tract might be available. He explained that John Christie had offered to donate 3-
1/2 acres to the Town on Preston Rd. near Stone Creek/Hickory Creek. Chief Tucker advised that he had looked at the
property and felt that they could make it work. Mr. Niswanger stated that they would need to talk to adjacent landowners
regarding that location.
Jennifer Finley reviewed the "Debt Service Analysis" prepared by Doug Hartman, Southwest Consultants, in regards to the
Town's bonding ability. Several scenarios were provided based on methods of repayment, where the money would come
from, etc. Ms. Finley explained that funds were currently available from the 2001 Bond, but that money had previously been
earmarked for a new fire station. Before the Town is able to pursue additional bonds, it must determine where the remaining
2001 Bond money will be spent. She advised that the Engineer has provided approximate funds needed for sewer. She also
stated that the bonding company has said that the Town can comfortably afford a bond for these amounts. Councilman Perry
stated that the market is extremely favorable for long-term borrowing at this time and most likely this lifetime will never see it
this favorable again.
Councilman Perry felt strongly that Council should honor the original commitment for a new fire station out of the 2001 Bond
money. He recommended using new bond money for additional wants, needs and desires, and asked to have a
representative from the bond company meet with Council in a work session regarding various options. Mayor Dunmire stated
that the remaining 2001 Bond money would not be applied to Water & Sewer projects until they had more information. He
asked that Ms. Finley schedule a workshop in the near future for further discussion. No action taken.
T Disc scion with Japon Pierce, U12ogr Trinity, regarding,s9werv ila ili in the Town's western portion of the ETJ.
Mayor Dunmire advised that Jason Pierce was not present. No discussion. No action taken.
8. U12date f om Kathyi Mango Network, r r in o u i services n u r n on em ra ordinan e.
Kathy Seei, Mango Network, presented Council with a "Council Meeting Deport" and summarized information she received
from Council as a result of a survey. Council survey comments included the following desires: adapt corridor Standards to
resemble Flower mound, design prototype neighborhood to resemble Gentle Creek Estates, adopt a Lighting Ordinance and
Tree Ordinance, begin Energy Standards, and find new ways to receive feedback from the community. She advised that she
would draft ordinances related to some of these issues and have ready for Council review in December.
Mrs. Seei advised she would like to begin initial modeling sometime in January based on information received from Council
and the Town Engineer; however, it is not part of the current contract with Mango, so she agreed to do the modeling on her
own time and money. She also advised that she would have preliminary staff infrastructure projections to Council in the next
couple weeks.
Councilman Perry explained that the community is being presented half truths and negative views based on
miscommunications. Council agreed to have Kathy make communication with citizens a high priority.
Mrs. Seei provided preliminary comments and suggestions regarding the proposed Lakes of Prosper subdivision and agreed
to submit additional comments to Council at a later date.
No action taken.
9. Bill Gurley Disci sion and possihie ?action on the re-pllatting of the property known as Collin County School
! @nd Survey Abstract hIQ 147 containing 1.523 acres of land more or less better described as the prosy at the
South West corner of E. First Street and 5. Craig Road. Bill Gurley presented Council, requesting to replat the above
referenced tract of land into 4 —approximately 14,000 sq. ft. lots. He advised Council that he may come back and request a
variance to use less masonry to conform to the surrounding homes. He would like to rezone and replat concurrently.
Larry Tracey and Charles Niswanger advised that they were in favor of the proposed development and felt that it would fit in
with the surrounding neighborhood. Mayor Dunmire felt that they could quickly get through the zoning of the property. No
action taken.
10. Discussion and possible action regarding a Petition to change the zoning of Stone Creek Btock C owned by
Jobe Properties from C!2mmercial to Office District. Mayor Dunmire publicly acknowledged a petition presented to
Council by residents of the Stone Creek subdivision requesting the rezoning of the Stone Creek Commercial tract from
commercial to office district.
Amber Phillips explained that she previously discussed this issue with the Town's legal Council who recommended against
rezoning the property since the preliminary plat had already been approved. Rick Cowens, 635 Creekview Drive, stated that
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the residents in his neighborhood did not want to see a restaurant at that location. He felt that certain types of business would
diminish his property value.
Mark Cross, 303 Stone Hollow Ct., felt that Phil Jobe had been a great developer and wanted to make clear that the petition
was not intended as a hostile action. He stated that Mr. Jobe previously indicated to him that he intended put office buildings
at that location although there is commercial zoning at that location. He was concerned that the commercial property could be
sold out to other owners to do as they wish. Mr. Cross stated that he wanted to protect their property values.
Phil Jobe explained that he never committed to 100% office space at that location. He only committed to buffering the homes
frnm the commercial tract. He has always maintained his ability to do commercial. He advised that he had already turned
down a Sonic drive-in and a convenient store because he did not feel those were the types of businesses the property -owners
wanted in that area. Mr. Jobe requested that he be contacted in the future when issues regarding his property are placed on
future agendas.
Glenda Turpin, 505 Stone Creek, stated that the salesman from whom she bought her home from had indicated that 7 -office
building would be constructed in that location. He also told her that the office buildings would be built much like the
surrounding homes, which would flow with the neighborhood.
Mr. Jobe stated that the buildings will look very nice and have a residential feel. Mr. Jobe also agreed to work with the lighting
in that area so that it is not a nuisance to the surrounding property owners.
Town Consultant Kathy Seei stated that the property has straight commercial zoning, and she did not think that a restaurant
would fall under commercial but rather retail zoning. Mayor Dunmire agreed to research the issue. No action taken.
11. Adjourn. Mayor Dunmire adjourned the meeting at 9:41 PM.
Mayor JI unmire
Attest*
ow Secretary Amber Phillips